so here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.
"do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.
now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.
I would be inclined to say,
A) For roughly 100 years, everyone with the heavenly hope was a member of the Faithful & Discreet Slave, but not anymore after the Annual Meeting. I'm confused that Jehovah allowed an apparently false teaching to persist for so long.
B) Since Christ is going to judge everyone, Scripturally it would be totally wrong for me to assume his role and say if someone is already faithful & discreet or not. Would you do such a thing?
prior to that we had been in a new congregation for about 9 months, and we were just irregular.
my husband rarely went, and i would go occasionally with our toddler son just enough to show our faces and keep the elders off our backs, and for the sake of some friendships in our old hall.
all of the reasons i had for going were just no longer important.
@ MRS THOR - I am curious about the state What Now? lives in.
here is a pdf of the "old/new lights" (which i have gleaned) to be studied worldwide from september for 4 weeks.
(along with a few comments i felt had to be made!).
the old falsehoods which were 'truth' for decades, have now been replaced with 'accurate truths'.
Here is a PDF of the "Old/New Lights" (which I have gleaned) to be studied worldwide from September for 4 weeks. (along with a few comments I felt had to be made!)
The old falsehoods which were 'truth' for decades, have now been replaced with 'accurate truths'. (how long these 'accurate truths' will last, who knows?)
Anyway, for those like myself who are still in, be prepared to 'speak truth with one another' and offer subtle answers which may stir some thought processes in some others.
Thanks to WATCHTOWER-FREE for his help in submitting this.
i'd like to post a pdf of the july 15th watchtower with the highlighted nine reversals of teachings in it.
(the ones i've found so far) plus one or two comments i've added.
can anyone tell me how to upload it please?
I'd like to post a PDF of the July 15th Watchtower with the highlighted nine reversals of teachings in it. (the ones I've found so far) Plus one or two comments I've added.
Can anyone tell me how to upload it please? Thanks for your help.
a lot of the rank and file at the meetings seem to think some of the changes make more sense but what is the most damning of the changes that may help to wake to some up.
some thing the rank and file will not first see or understand as a big deal?.
As a Witness who's still active, it's gotta be the claim that the Evil Slave is non-existent and is only a "hypothetical condition".
They credit a "scholar" with this description of Jesus' view of the evil slave.
Who is this "scholar"? None other than someone who would be described as part of apostate Christendom - he helped to produce The Net Bible.
So we rely on worldly sources to provide some of our "new light"????????? Oh, oh!!
i wish to communicate that there has been a change in the name that identifies the community that i'm rousing.
it used to be called "christian fraternity of jehovah's people".
from now on it will be called "christian fraternity of god's people".
The fact is that Christians were never instructed through the Greek Scriptures to be Witnesses of Jehovah, but rather, to be Witnesses of His son Jesus Christ. Hence the God-given name of "Christians". (Acts 11:26)
Clearly, J.F. Rutherford was doing a re-branding job after many of the Bible Students split because of his "obtaining" control of the Organisation, contrary to the wishes Russell had laid down in his Last Will & Testament.
The Israelite nation were Witnesses of Jehovah, (Isa. 43:10) but not so after the Messiah was revealed.
Matt. 10:18; Mark 13:9; Acts 1:8; John 1:15; John 5:37; John 8:18; John 15:26,27; Acts 10:39; Acts 10:43; Acts 11:26; Acts 13:31; Acts 22:15;
Acts 22:20; Acts 23:11; Acts 26:16; 1 Cor. 1:6; 1 Tim. 2:6,7; 2 Tim. 1:8; 1 John 5:9; Rev. 1:9; Revelation 12:17; Rev. 17:6; Rev. 19:10; Rev. 20:4 .
those who were baptized as jehovah's witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest..
P.S.
It still doesn't change the fact that shunning is un-scriptural and is an evil teaching & practice!
those who were baptized as jehovah's witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest..
To be even handed, here is the complete reference on JW.ORG.
"Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest."
"We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “ Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. ”— 1 Corinthians 5:13 ."
Let's not imitate the WTBTS methods by only telling part of the story. I'm not being an apologist, but the statement admits fully that certain ones are shunned - those who are disfellowshipped. It appears to be making the point that "falling away" does not merit 'stoning to death', contrary to the personal view of a C.O. who told me that he would refuse to talk to someone who'd stopped associating with the congregation.
if there is a new version of the nwt, does anyone know the reason why?
changes/copyright problems?.
@ MP
There was a post a few months ago of a court case instigated by a named individual, citing the WTBTS and the New World Translation Writing Committee as co-defendants.
I appreciate that copyright expires after a number of years, but perhaps infringements of active copyright can be claimed for after expiry of said copyright.
I thought it was noteworthy that an "individual" would hire a team of lawyers from a prestigious street in New York, and take on a multi-billion dollar conglomerate!! The "individual" must a) have plenty of cash, and b) be pretty certain that "he" has all the aces!
if there is a new version of the nwt, does anyone know the reason why?
changes/copyright problems?.
If there is a new version of the NWT, does anyone know the reason why? Changes/copyright problems?
